at the park recently i overheard two well meaning mamas talking, and what they said kept me puzzling for some of the night. this is pretty much verbatim:woman 1: [regarding a california ballot proposition] "i prayed about it and got my answer. why should i read what the laws say? voting "no" means this, voting "yes" means that...what difference does it make? i don't need to know any of that stuff. i got my answer.
woman 2: "totally."
i do not repeat this to ridicule anyone (to be fair, i don't even know these women), but just to point out what is certainly an unintended consequence of blindly following the prophet. don't misunderstand me. do follow prophets. do not make their counsel an abject substitute for your own research and learning (not that any of you do. i'm just saying). prayer is less powerful without it. is that enough bossy imperatives for one paragraph? the glory of god is intelligence--and intelligence doesn't force itself on us. it takes a little of that gritty, bothersome work i am always trying to avoid.
i have no argument with those who sincerely study, ask, receive, and ultimately disagree with me (on the contrary, i'd like to shake hands and kiss on both cheeks, frenchy-style, because we agree on the most important thing: sincerity). and i fully accept that i may be wrong--a lot. but that's not my point. this is: "Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me." -D&C 9:7
as our good friends the taylors recently reminded me, one can't be effectively persuasive (or educated) in an argument, without learning about and (this is key...) trying honestly to understand the major conflicting points of view. it doesn't work in scholarly research and it doesn't work in political research. you simply have to try for some objectivity. and then, once you have made your decision, and had it ratified through prayer (if you're of the praying persuasion), you must own it.
in my honest-to-goodness last political post before the election (because really, i don't enjoy being a social pariah in my chosen community as much as it may seem*), i have some information to share. i know my readership is small, but i figure the least i can do is share the research of others within this small circle, in case anyone is still interested. i don't do it idly: this election has honestly compelled me to vote in ways i never have before.
whether you bleed blue, red, or regular human blood, remember this: if you find yourself getting angry during the process, you must whip it. overcome the bad feelings. we need opposing views in this country. this is excellent advice i had to give to my own self (oh, thanks, self!). then vote the way you gotta.
to recap: learn it. own it. whip it. good.
and now, some nuggets**:
:: interesting thoughts here--esp. scan the right-hand column
:: smart & faithful brother--try him. you'll like him
:: my own self--i found the reader comments helpful
:: hear them out--listening will not make you a bad mormon
*brings back memories of being the one and only scab (aka conscientious objector) during the dread grad student union strike of '00-'01 in the UW english dept. oy. ask me about that sometime if you want me to hit you in the eye with a tack hammer.
**keep in mind my opinions may or not be shared by these folks, so give them the benefit of the doubt. me you can badmouth all over town. it's all in the name of peace, love & understandin'.
(see how i got a little folksy there at the end by dropping the "g"? i am hoping it will add to my appeal.)
15 of you said:
I cringe at the park conversation. Thank you for helping me articulate why. I wonder sometimes if we are trying to adopt these lyrics in too broad a sense: tis a gift to be simple?
I still think we need to get together. Sorry, I mentioned that before and then we got very very busy.
i love that hymn, though. and love those shaking quakers.
yes, let's definitely get together. if you guys aren't afraid to enter the black widows' lair...we'll save you some daddy longlegs.
Probably the best politics-related post I've read this election season.
Thank you for tempering my kneejerk zeal with what really matters: thought, empathy, true charity.
To paraphrase an editor I like: if all people had been, and were, and ever would be, like unto Sherry Carpet, behold, the very powers of hell would have been shaken forever; yea, the devil would never have power over the hearts of women and men.
great post sherry carpet. and thanks for the research links, too. very helpful.
Concerning the overheard conversation. It is difficult to fathom how an individual could received a direct and clear answer to a prayer when she didn't understand what she was praying about in the first place.
Simple is beautiful and has great power. But simple is different from simplistic. The late filmmaker Andri Tarkovski consistently advocated for simplicity it was a point that he was quite passionate, even dogmatic about.
What is important about his notion of the simple is that he viewed artifice as getting in the way of spiritual understanding. But the simple in his discourse is not reductive, it does not restrict meaning or pretend at final meanings. For example he talked about Haiku and praised the best work for being so simple that it seems to have no meaning beyond itself but at the same time the meaning can never be fully understood. That is the form of the simple that I think is honestly at work in faith and religion. The reductive understanding of the simple that is often advocated for in church is a form of artifice. It can be comforting and easier to address but it does not lead us any closer to God.
Thank you for giving me something interesting to read in lieu of work.
I voted today. As I did, I thought about this post. Living in a state where my vote doesn't seem to always count for much, it felt good to make a choice this election that I knew was right. It felt like I was speaking out (in a very private way - I guess) for what I hope to be change. A whole lot 'o' change.
And even if my state doesn't bring it, I participated in support of everyone of you out there who can.
Thanks for the weeks of discussion and links. I don't always post because I'm not super knowledgeable regarding political topics (and I don't want to sound stupid). But I love hearing what everyone says. And I love reading about it.
jacks, stupid's the very last word I'd ever use to describe you. It's actually the word right after the last word. You are -1 stupid. (That's meant as a compliment. The math and me ... not so much.
Thanks for voting. Your vote may not have a huge influence in terms of your state's electoral college vote, but it adds to the national popular mandate from which the next president will draw political capital to "spend" in achieving his/our goals.
oooh, i'm likin' this state of fress thing.
um, friss. so why can't you edit your blog posts? come on google.
Wow RD - I wasn't expecting a compliment. Maybe I'll have to post more often...
And I appreciate the info on the national popular mandate. I haven't thought of it in that way. Take that, Utah!
state of friss rocks my world. i heart it. thanks for saying things much better than i could. did i mention that you rock? i did? well, it never hurts to say it again.
without a doubt your comments are better than the original post. i was away from my computer all day and worried that i had stepped over a line i DON'T like to cross: getting up in people's spirichall business. lucky for me you all give me the benefit of the doubt.
i love this kind of forum. i mean, tarkovski? popular mandates? haiku? yeah! i learn so much every time i check back. you all make my life better.
I don't have much energy to respond in the way I would like (keep an eye out for the next Meckley post for pictures of our newest member) but I just want to say that I think you're pretty cool.
Well said, Sherry Carpet.
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